Fev would of been reprimanded also if not for a previous guilty verdict. I thought it was a fair enough result even though he hit my man JR.

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Should we be happy about that?

I think we should be counting ourselves lucky that Jordan Russell hasn't been cited for head-butting Croad's elbow.

He could have been given 4 weeks for that.

I saw the incident again on WLF and really it is a bit of a farce that Croad didn't get at least one week for that.

I can see merit in the points system, if people understand it more it can work. But when an incident like that, a clear raised elbow to the head, is not deemed worthy of suspension then they either need to revise the points system, or remove the head of the match review panel from cases involving Hawthorn players.

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Its probably not the points sustem thats at fault. ots the interpretation of reckless v intentional v whatever and low impact v medium etc etc
It is open to abuse and mistakes. The whole idea of haveing the match review panel would be to have consistency if the same 3 people are judging.
Maybe they need to get professionals ie lawyers or ex-magistrates

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I think the points system is a farce. It's way too open to interpretation.

It's time to perhaps admit that this isn't working and get rid of it.

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I don't mind the points system but the discounts for various things make it a joke. Croad's indiscretion has been one of the worst I've seen so far this year but because it's his first in a while and he agrees not to contest it he can play the next week.
A joke.

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What I don't understand is the differentiation between "low", "medium" and "high" impact.

How was Croad's hit not considered at least medium, given JR ended up concussed? It's one thing to decide that on the spur of the moment, but given that a review panel watches the footage, and knows the outcome of the hits, surely Croad's hit was more than "low impact"

Failed coaches. First one has been appointed to ruin umpiring, now one's f*cking the tribunal system.

Send them to Iraq, they couldn't stuff things up any more than they're stuffed now. I think.

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Schwab quit the Match Review Panel at the endof last year.

Did he? Thanks for the update.

He's still a tool.

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Damn straight it's a farce. They make something that should be so simple way harder than it really is.

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Take a look at Lovett-Murray's hit on Didak by the boundary line.

Exactly the same as Fev's hit on Kirk. If anything, Didak copped it worse.

Let's see what happens....

Still, I can't say I blame him for wanting to smash Didak into next week.

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I will look in the paper for Didak, for I doubt I'll see his name in the suspended column - he doesn't play for us. Eddie would retaliate and penalize the AFL is Didak got his hair mussed.

Didak's been copping a lot of heavy attention today.

I wouldn't be surprised if Lovett-Murray's hot doesn't even get a mention.

the system's shite.

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Was the old system not even more open to interpreation and inconsistency?

The points system needs some work, but at least it provides some basis to start from in determining penalties.

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The points system has been around for years in the NRL, and every year there are horrible inconsistencies. The NRL haven't got it right, the AFL don't exactly fill me with a sense of confidence that they can.

The old system certainly seemed more even handed than this one does.

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where is the tribunal listed on the web - ie how many points are what?

anyone know?

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It used to be on the AFL website. I saved a PDF of last years but its already out of date because they removed the point for 'in play' etc

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That was my immediate thought - exactly the same, if not worse, than Fev. If he's not cited it's a bloody joke.

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Just perusing over the suspensions we have been served over the last 3 years and it's obvious Carlton are screened, scrutinised and penalised harsher moreso than any other team. It has been a fact of life that I can't do anything about. I would love to lead a Carlton army to AFL House to protest with vigour, but then we'd look like whingers.

Prenders charge, Fevola's inconclusive hit on Brown, Campo's love tap, Stevens retaliation, Scotland's pie in the face, Fev's charge....

If Lovett-Murray doesn't get called up to face the tribunal, it wont surprise me, just confirms my premise.

Move forward.

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