jim wrote:
jimmae wrote:
The buck stops with the coach? Who is in la-la land?!
So the players are mindless drones with which Pagan operates by remote control and any failings they have to adhere to his plans are automatically his failings? Any mistakes they make are his mistakes?
I think there's a fundamental flaw here, your assessment.
Let's just throw anyone in our 22 and Pagan should be able to make them win games. That's like going into a retail store, demanding a discount on everything you buy, and wondering why they won't give it to you.
No fundamnetal flaw at all. We're not in a retail store as the club selects the best available footballers at a draft, not Joe Blogs in a retail store. Can't believe you made such a comment. With those players he coaches, he teaches, he plans etc...and if he dosen't get that right, and gain the player's respect, your side goes crap and he gets the boot. If he gets it right we wins games. Sadly we're crap. That's the essence of coaching. If that's not his job, why have a coach. I find that very simple to understand. Have a look at us, how many more excuses can you make for him. You're in la-la land if you think otherwise.
I'll make plenty of excuses for him when players are failing to work for each other and execute basic skills.
How much of it now is Pagan, and how much of it is players doubting themselves and the majority of the playing group. They need to drag themselves out of this rut and work hard how they use the footy and create space for clean use of the footy.
He's giving them instructions I'm sure, he's certainly not the one attempting to execute them.
We go long and direct we fail and the ball comes screaming back.
We play uncontested footy and chip and the ball comes screaming back.
Two completely different game plans yet the opposition still find themselves in space with numbers and none of our blokes in sight.
THIS IS NOT THE COACH'S FAULT. This is called not thinking beyond streaming forward and putting your hand up for the ball. The players are not themselves at the moment, they're afraid of what might go wrong.
Pagan's only responsibilities are that the areas of their game that need to be developed are developed, that they have as suitable a gameplan as possible for them to stay competitive, that what they need to be polished up on is polished up as much as time can allow and that they are mentally focused on the task at hand.
If Pagan fails to have his players prepared to play whether they be scared of mistakes they might make or uninspired by his methods WHEN our 22 is ready to push for finals, then I will be on the anti-Pagan side.
Until then he does the best he can with what he has and he errs on the side of protecting players when the need is there and developing what needs to be developed, whether that be marking, kicking, decision making, postional play, whatever.
The coach is not the sole perpretator of a losing game of football, that is how you are portraiting it.
What your saying then in reality is that a coach is unnecessary. I'm a track & field coach and I can tell you technically, which includes teaching, technique, off-track work etc.., and performance-wise (eg: success of actual training program), the buck stops with me. If those things aren't functioning they soon find a new coach. I know that as well as anyone. Same goes in any sport, AFL no different. That includes Pagan. To say otherwise is plainly niave and dumb.
Well, anyway, you continue to think what you want. Just don't complain when we keeping losing games looking a rabble, with no skill playing with no real want or passion. Enjoy the football.