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Fev had no idea who Nicholls was.


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dane wrote:
can we get this guy banned?


Why ???

Seems to be doing nothing more than having an opinion (even if it is completely opposite to mine) and is expressing it quite eloquently.

Seems a little more interesting to read than your contribution.

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BlueWorld wrote:
Fev had no idea who Nicholls was.



Do you actually believe that ??

Full of piss and acting the goat in front of the the other players maybe ....

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TheSheik wrote:
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Anyone can find a top 20 pick.


Really ?? If that is the case, then why did we draft so many duds ??

Adam Chatfield mean anything to you ??


He was pick 23 (and we want more picks around there?)


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BlueWorld wrote:
He was pick 23 (and we want more picks around there?)


I give up, you have absolutely no idea and cannot understand simple statements or situations.

Time for you to go back to the Ryan Houlihan board and write a few bios there.

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Thank God you have nothing to do with the club.
Tanking has never won a premiship.
You have no idea about football your logic is simplictic.
Carlton will win tommorow and then you can stick pick 18 were it belongs.


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TheSheik wrote:
I give up.


Good idea.

Is pick 23 in the top 20?

Time for you to go back to that other board.


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BlueWorld wrote:
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I give up.


Good idea.

Time for you to go back to that other board.


You mean this one :

www.talkingryanhoulihan.com.au

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This is far too good a draft for my liking.Reckon every club is going to get a couple of good players.Two good players,or three good players ! not going to make a gigantic differance.Much sooner have a priority in a shit draft where you could pick the eyes out of it.

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Mickstar wrote:
This is far too good a draft for my liking.Reckon every club is going to get a couple of good players.Two good players,or three good players ! not going to make a gigantic differance.Much sooner have a priority in a shit draft where you could pick the eyes out of it.


I agree with you in part Mick but it's not about every club getting a couple of good players. I look at it that we desperately need an injection of some key players and this is how we can get them.

We shouldn't be focussed on what the other clubs do, we have no control over that. We just need to keep bringing in the talent and build the depth on the playing list. As the other clubs good players get older and retire, our group will improve and become a force again.

Take as much of the cream we can whilst they are on offer.

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Stick to the topic we're discussing TheSheik.


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'We shouldn't be focussed on what the other clubs do, we have no control over that.'

supporters could learn from this, just drop 'other'' and the s in 'clubs', change do to does and bobs your uncle




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a person who's mind is quite okay thank you very much 8)

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BlueWorld wrote:
Stick to the topic we're discussing TheSheik.


Listen here you silly little man, the topic is about drafting and the like so I am infact sticking to the topic.

And in case you have a premature case of alzheimer's, I said that I give up, I can't discuss anything rationally with you at all.

You have very little comprehension of what someone else is trying to say and then bring in obscure or laughable points to support whatever your warped view is.

Now, get back to www.talkingryan's.org.an will you.

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dannyboy wrote:
a person who's mind is quite okay thank you very much 8)


Denial, the first stages of degeneration ?? :lol:

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what would you know about the D-generation - that was a comedy show?

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Some stats i've looked up after hearing it on SEN this morning:

Since the inception of the draft only 2 number 1 picks have played in a premiership team. Of the 190 top ten picks in that time only 17 have played in a premiership with 4 of those winning at a club other than the one that drafted them.

1987: Graham Wright (Pick 3 - Pies)
1992: Drew Banfield (Pick 1 - Eagles), Justin Leppitsch (Pick 4 - Bears), Martin Pike (Pick 9 - Fitzroy)
1993: Nigel Lappin (Pick 2 - Bears), Chris Johnson (Pick 7 - Fitzroy)
1994: Shannon Grant (Pick 3 - Sydney), Scott Lucas (Pick 4 - Bombers), Blake Caracella (Pick 10 - Bombers)
1995: Matthew Primus (Pick 2 - Fitzroy), Jared Crouch (Pick 8 - Sydney)
1996: Chris Heffernan (Pick 2 - Essendon*)
1997: Luke Power (Pick 5 - Lions), Chad Cornes (Pick 9)
1998: Nick Fosdike (Pick 3 - Sydney), Josh Carr (Pick 7 - Port), Jude Bolton (Pick 8 - Sydney)

Interesting that North, Sydney, Essendon* and Brisbane are the main benefactors either directly or via trades for players who have gone on to win premierships.

IMO it proves that pick 1 isn't guranteed to win us a premiership it is the players we find to cover spots 16-28 on our list that are important in winning a premiership. Nobody has won a premiership with a top ten pick drafted in a draft from 1999. Quite stagering realy.

Tomorrow we must win to avoid the spoon, I don't care about the extra top 20 pick, it is no guarantee to victory, whereas a loss tomorrow is basically a guarantee on mediocrity again.

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I havent bothered to read much after the first few posts, especially seeing as it was 8 pages long and already seemed liked heading down the usual path.

I used to enjoy both TBV and TC as it gave me an insight into the club and a way of staying in touch in a non footy state. We used to have insightfull people posting such as Synbad ((prior to his tiresome(i hate officaldom in all its form) rants included)). Dannyboy you made the site wholesome becuase at the end of the day whilst logic run amok you bought a semmblence of heart to the site at vented (and got away with) what alot wanted to say but got shot down for doing so. Now you seem to have given up and have started to play the man :oops:

We seem to have become all we despised and alluded to being better than. We truly are a rabble becuase the one piece of fabric that holds a club together and makes it great is its supporters - yet we are intent of tearing strips of each other and forming various tank and "god help us if we do tank" supporter clubs and whatever else types of factions that divide us.

There was a time when MRS CAZ used to post on the main boards a hell of a lot(more than now) and so did her lesser half :wink: yet these people regardless of positions involved have stepped way way way back and the site is way way way worse of for it.

Supporters here at times havnt realised (or couldnt give a shit) that players and parents read the site and really bag our players out despite them been busting a gut for a shit side yet these people(despite the misgivings) still post here. Blokes like DOA have given an insight into this club that few would ever be afforded yet he was (and I mean was - really really hope used to :wink: ) had a Collingwood supporting son. We should be gratefull to these people becuase Im sure that it would be a hell of a lot easier on their sanity to not read nor post here.

I dont really care if we lose or not tomorrow. What I really care about is that every player who takes the field does so with the intent of doing their best and in having pride in their(our) jumper and the club it represents. If they do that I cant ask for more.

Forget the consequenses of missing draft picks becuase we win to many- (we have suffered them this seaons because of cheating yet we see some light). We need to win. Was it really necessary for a kid like Luke Blackwell to have to tell the media and the rest of the world wat it means to all our kids the other day.

YES IT WAS - it was directed at us. The boys want to win and sure as hell have the ability to do so but have forgotten to and need to learn again. Yes it may seem narrow minded to want to win when Bryce Almighty is available ( I forgot we had Marc our Saviour - how the @#$%&! many do we need :roll: ) but who really wants a gun recruit whose first thought is oh @#$%&! thats the last place I want to go.

People blow their loads over Simmo and Fish yet they are a product of good recruiting and luck - not early draft picks.

We already have a number of kids who can play (despite maybe being a year or two away) and a few obvious deficiencies - Ruck - CHB or FB.

Look at our kids in the Bullants that every love to rave about - they arnt that far away and to me the people that want us to continually lose are the most selfish of all. Here we have talents almost ready to step in but they keep saying lose lose lose be patient patient patient and well have more. By the time we have more these blokes kids will be rather son and we will be Stkilda.

Denis be Do or Denis be Dont but sure as hell Denis be DAMMED - Can anyone here tell me how this bloke is supposed to win. On one hand we have supporters wanting his head because we are losing yet at the same time if we do win they want his blood even more :roll: . FFS people pick a fence - sit on it and get some @#$%&! integrity.

Sorry if I have rambled on but as usual im in trouble with Mrs 3 for spending time away from her - or is is that that I had too too much to drink this arvo with my mates after yet another loss (final for the year be thankfull for small mercies) and have to just post my thoughts without any editing .

God I hope we win tomorrow - but if we dont I hope we play with pride , passion and agression and give a good account of ourselves. Anything less is embarressing.


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MarkNo3 wrote:
I dont really care if we lose or not tomorrow. What I really care about is that every player who takes the field does so with the intent of doing their best and in having pride in their(our) jumper and the club it represents. If they do that I cant ask for more.




God I hope we win tomorrow - but if we dont I hope we play with pride , passion and agression and give a good account of ourselves. Anything less is embarressing.


Beautiful, Mark.

F*cking poetry!

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dannyboy wrote:
what would you know about the D-generation - that was a comedy show?


Comedy is my middle name.

Was in the audience for the first ever episode of The Late Show which featured most of the Degeneration crew so I guess I know a bit about it.

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Spot on MarkNo3, some of the comments on this site are really dissapointing, yes everyone is entitled to an oppinion but before you type on here ask yourself is it constructive and in the best interest of the club.

I can't understand how some can turn so quickly on our own eg. Kouta

The same people on this site will be bagging Murphy when he is 32 years old and struggling with chronic keen injuries.

Go Blues, beat the Hawks and more importantly beat the Tigers and show heaps against the Maggies and the Swannies.

And to top it off, Go Dons win one more game and therfore they also miss out on the PP.


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