I havent bothered to read much after the first few posts, especially seeing as it was 8 pages long and already seemed liked heading down the usual path.
I used to enjoy both TBV and TC as it gave me an insight into the club and a way of staying in touch in a non footy state. We used to have insightfull people posting such as Synbad ((prior to his tiresome(i hate officaldom in all its form) rants included)). Dannyboy you made the site wholesome becuase at the end of the day whilst logic run amok you bought a semmblence of heart to the site at vented (and got away with) what alot wanted to say but got shot down for doing so. Now you seem to have given up and have started to play the man
We seem to have become all we despised and alluded to being better than. We truly are a rabble becuase the one piece of fabric that holds a club together and makes it great is its supporters - yet we are intent of tearing strips of each other and forming various tank and "god help us if we do tank" supporter clubs and whatever else types of factions that divide us.
There was a time when MRS CAZ used to post on the main boards a hell of a lot(more than now) and so did her lesser half

yet these people regardless of positions involved have stepped way way way back and the site is way way way worse of for it.
Supporters here at times havnt realised (or couldnt give a shit) that players and parents read the site and really bag our players out despite them been busting a gut for a shit side yet these people(despite the misgivings) still post here. Blokes like DOA have given an insight into this club that few would ever be afforded yet he was (and I mean was - really really hope used to

) had a Collingwood supporting son. We should be gratefull to these people becuase Im sure that it would be a hell of a lot easier on their sanity to not read nor post here.
I dont really care if we lose or not tomorrow. What I really care about is that every player who takes the field does so with the intent of doing their best and in having pride in their(our) jumper and the club it represents. If they do that I cant ask for more.
Forget the consequenses of missing draft picks becuase we win to many- (we have suffered them this seaons because of cheating yet we see some light). We need to win. Was it really necessary for a kid like Luke Blackwell to have to tell the media and the rest of the world wat it means to all our kids the other day.
YES IT WAS - it was directed at us. The boys want to win and sure as hell have the ability to do so but have forgotten to and need to learn again. Yes it may seem narrow minded to want to win when Bryce Almighty is available ( I forgot we had Marc our Saviour - how the @#$%&! many do we need

) but who really wants a gun recruit whose first thought is oh @#$%&! thats the last place I want to go.
People blow their loads over Simmo and Fish yet they are a product of good recruiting and luck - not early draft picks.
We already have a number of kids who can play (despite maybe being a year or two away) and a few obvious deficiencies - Ruck - CHB or FB.
Look at our kids in the Bullants that every love to rave about - they arnt that far away and to me the people that want us to continually lose are the most selfish of all. Here we have talents almost ready to step in but they keep saying lose lose lose be patient patient patient and well have more. By the time we have more these blokes kids will be rather son and we will be Stkilda.
Denis be Do or Denis be Dont but sure as hell Denis be DAMMED - Can anyone here tell me how this bloke is supposed to win. On one hand we have supporters wanting his head because we are losing yet at the same time if we do win they want his blood even more

. FFS people pick a fence - sit on it and get some @#$%&! integrity.
Sorry if I have rambled on but as usual im in trouble with Mrs 3 for spending time away from her - or is is that that I had too too much to drink this arvo with my mates after yet another loss (final for the year be thankfull for small mercies) and have to just post my thoughts without any editing .
God I hope we win tomorrow - but if we dont I hope we play with pride , passion and agression and give a good account of ourselves. Anything less is embarressing.