I agree that it was a miserable contest though.

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the contest for "hottest raffle ticket chick in the sticks room" was more tightly contested

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Glad all you guys have come to realize what i have been telling you for years.Smith is no more than a filthy swine.
RE.......falling off his ladder.Pity he didnt live in a penthouse on top of the Rialto.

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I wonder who actually reads his work. Does ANYONE actually take him seriously? I don't even bother to think about him. If I want Vitriol, I would bathe in concentrated Sulphuric Acid.
Seriously, he is a Zero who thinks he actually means something. He couldn't be more wrong. People like him keep the Australian very low in peoples mind when it comes to buying a paper.

Do people actually buy it?

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The thing is if he was writing about an Essendon* or Collingwood we would all think he is a legend. He is clearly a Carlton hater who unfortuntaley for us, has the opportunity to vent his spleen in public. We should ignore him of course but we can't because we are hurt and offended by his level of vitriol and sacrcasm.

The point is he is a journalist not a supporter so is supposed to be unbiased. Clearly he is not. Somebody (i am too lazy) should make a collection of his anti-Carlton vitriol and send it to KB (who speaks to him everyday on SEN and wouldn't be afraid to grill him) or perhaps someone who is cleverer than I with computers could start a "Patrick Smith and his Poor Excuse for Journailsim" web site which could host a collection of excerpts of all his obviously biased arrticles as well his incorrect statements etc. This way he can be outed in public, just as he loves to do to us.

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Number 17 - come on down!

I have to say that I've never heard a more unpleasant man in the way he describes Carlton. He hasn't got a good thing to say. My personal viewpoint of the club is courageous in the way they are facing their demons and their responsibilities slowly but surely. Patrick Smith will eat his words.

I don't think I have heard a more unhappy man than him. I remember when describing Carlton's performance in 1995, he said the competition was weak that year

There are three Carlton haters: Patrick Smith, Mark Robinson on SEN and Dwayne Russell, although he claims he was barracking for Carlton in the game against Sydney.

Talk about kicking a team when he's down.

I can't wait for the day when we are back, financially and on field. It will be so sweet. And believe me fellow TC'ers that it will happen.

*BUMP*

He's back with a vengeance after falling off his roof.

Robbing pool to pay Pagan makes no cents.

Typical Smith article.

If, presumably, possibly........

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How ridiculous, it is a LOAN, we have to pay it back, they didn't say, here is some money you must spend it on this or that. Don't forget Fitzy will be in the meeting tonight so the AFL will know what is going on anyway.

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Not if the decision is made before the meeting

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"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

I tend to agree with Fatprick - it is a rediculous position we're in. We borrow money to sack a coach we appointed 12 months ago - stupid.

The only way we could work it is if the pussies take his contract for the last 2 years and we appoint a proper coach through the correct process - not just the cheap VFL option because he reckons he can do it.

What if Mitchell takes the Bullants out in straight sets this weekend? where will everyone sit if that happens??

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We pay out Pagan which is a cost to us whether he stays or goes. No doubt Elshaugh would be on good coin as well.
Have no doubt, potential coaches like Longmire, Pyke etc will accept the opportunity to show their wares as senior coaches for modest contracts.
If they have confidence in their abilities, monetary benefits will come.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

I hope so BV cause I don't think Mitchell is the right man

Which part did I miss that said we would go to the market place for a senior coach? Will this happen?

I agree Woof. We should do so.
We have 4 weeks to make an informed decision.
There is no point in appointing Mitchell immediately. He can apply like everyone else and if he's good enough, he'll get the role.
Have no doubt, there will be potential coaches falling over themselves to coach a side with 3 top 20 picks this year.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

How exciting would it be to sack Pagan (paid out by mysterious benefactor) have Hughes manage the draft and then get a new board at the AGM and implement a 30 day process to find a suitable coach?


I'd sign up again with a smile on the dial.

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This might sound extreme in the context of alleged sexual assault, drunken violence and a drug trafficking charge...

but this seems to be being driven not by the need to find a new coach but to replace Pagan with Mitchell.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Wrong on both counts.

We have to pay Pagan anyway whether he coached us or not so our net loss is the payrise we give Mitchell. Membership and match day revenue will increase markedly, more than covering Pagan's payout. Remember we lost 5000 members this year, which equates probably to Pagan's payout. We can't afford to keep going as we are.You learn in life that Patrick Smith is an idiot. Knows everything but in reality, knows nothing!!

As for Mitchell, he gets the best out of the Bullants on match day. Most of the Bullants players are Carlton listed, coached by Pagan mid-week all year, as well as he time they are in the seniors.

I think you'll find the contract SHOULD have a clause saying that if he were to get a similar job with similar conditions the contract can be taken over by another party. If we didn't write that in, we're IDIOTS!!

He can step out of the game for two years as Blighty did and watch the footy on TV from the Cairns pro shop and receive $1m per annum, if he were to have taken a coaching position with, say, Carlton he could not double dip - I think .

As for Mitchell - he's shown nothing but how to retain ex AFL players. Most of the quaality every week are either ex players or players who can't make the AFL team. If we had 4 18/19 yo in the best every week, I'd agree.

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