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He also blamed me for the current situation. :shock:

If he's right and it's all my fault then I apologise... :lol:


Ahhhh, so YOU told Hughesy to draft JR :lol:


Yeah, sorry about that too... :oops:

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I've gone off the idea of "tickets" being formed.
Why do we need 8 or 10 people who present themsleves as a group.
I prefer if we can choose 10 individuals who sell themselves as individuals.
We got stuck with a few board members tacked to Collo's list without knowing much about them and it has been a disaster.
Greg Lee was a good candidate on his own. He didnt need to piggy back onto someoen elses list.
Let people nominate as individuals and we can pick the 10 or 12 or 8 best

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buzzaaaah wrote:
I've gone off the idea of "tickets" being formed.
Why do we need 8 or 10 people who present themsleves as a group.
I prefer if we can choose 10 individuals who sell themselves as individuals.
We got stuck with a few board members tacked to Collo's list without knowing much about them and it has been a disaster.
Greg Lee was a good candidate on his own. He didnt need to piggy back onto someoen elses list.
Let people nominate as individuals and we can pick the 10 or 12 or 8 best

In theory I agree.

But in reality wouldn't there be a lot more disagreement at the board table leading to increased infighting and instability?

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buzzaaaah wrote:
I've gone off the idea of "tickets" being formed.
Why do we need 8 or 10 people who present themsleves as a group.
I prefer if we can choose 10 individuals who sell themselves as individuals.
We got stuck with a few board members tacked to Collo's list without knowing much about them and it has been a disaster.
Greg Lee was a good candidate on his own. He didnt need to piggy back onto someoen elses list.
Let people nominate as individuals and we can pick the 10 or 12 or 8 best


I'd be happy to do that, boards are usually accumulations of individuals - no problem there.

However it needs someone to spill the board to begin with. Otherwise you only get to vote for the seats that are up for that particular year.

From memory the USC made the move last time and the Carlton One ticket formed as a result.

This time everybody seems to be waiting for a rival ticket to spill the current board.

Anyone else want a turn?

Also, there was talk at one point that the 100 signature rule was going to be changed to 500 or 1000. Did that ever happen?

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Not necessarily budzy. 10 people with opinions is just as painful as 5 with opinions and 5 who cant decide. As long as get some strong leadership I say 'Hallelujah' and go for it.

I think Greg Lee is his own man and has the interests of the club at heart, with a proven record of independent ideas and funds generation. He's very approachable too. I wont hide that I've come to know him through the Blueseum and look he's been a godsend for getting the Club to accept it.

All we need is an EGM and an ability to vote off certain people for new people. Would all positions be spilled in an EGM? I would have thought that even 3 to 4 new people could make a difference. Further, I'd have thought the lessons of Marcus Clarke have told us all to be very careful with our votes


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I'd 'prefer' a ticket. :wink:





....but Smorgan's gotta go regardless ffs! :evil:

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Further, I'd have thought the lessons of Marcus Clarke have told us all to be very careful with our votes

What happened in respect of Clarke, Molsey?

And one you might not want to answer on a public forum: who do you think could make way for fresh faces?


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Further, I'd have thought the lessons of Marcus Clarke have told us all to be very careful with our votes

What happened in respect of Clarke, Molsey?

And one you might not want to answer on a public forum: who do you think could make way for fresh faces?


Not sure what happened to Clarke, I'm not up with the Directors.

I gave up on my attempt to remain impartial ... oooh, about last Monday with the farcical non-decision made by our Board. Its all open-slather now!

I think Gleeson and Kernahan should remain as football people (add at least a couple more), I think Greg Lee is a key person for the Blues (and future leader), I think Mathieson has continually put his hand and name in the pocket to look after us, and I think Smorgan offers something (just not as President). From my limited understanding I have no idea what the rest offer. Rose is supposedly Finance Director (?), Diggins is a rellie of someone and I cant name the rest for lack of public image. I think a partially new ticket with the retention of these key people would be a good idea.

I dont think there's any shame in moving on as a Director - to me, it should be a transitory position that you devote yourself to, do your best, and then move on. If Valmorbida offers something then fine, good for the Club, but I think the outlook is all wrong. If you can commit to the Club, have ideas to turn it around, then hang around. If you're spent then move on. There's no shame in that. It's carlton. We all love it. We need to give our all and when we're done let someone else step in.

(ps if you notice no new article from me its because someone took offence... at a volunteer!)


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Maybe being on the Carlton Board is a bit like being a part of the Carlton Crew. You are safe only while you remain. Once you retire, you aren't honoured but are fair game for those who want to even up. Fortunately, in the case of the Board, that would only be by character assassination.


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No news on the grapevine where I am...other than a few interesting snippets about phone conversations that have occured between a few famous Carlton ex-players

Not naming names so here goes....

A man who laid a great tackle in the '99 Prelim on Dean Wallis wants to keep the ball rolling and is after some mates to join the cause...has approached all his old mates that include a former backman who can cure your dog, a midfielder who won 2 b&f's while wearing contact lenses, a south australian who was also a handy cricketer, a man who owns Tammy Wynettes greatest hits and a little rover / financier who employed Kouta.

...Ok - I'll stop being so cryptic...Sticks has also been doing the phone calls and just telling people in the deepest voice possible - "The last thing we need now is for blood to be spilt - I know where you're coming from - but now isn't the right time"...or so the story goes.

But the 'Dog' might have a couple of names already - a premiership wingman who wanted to be on the board a couple of years ago (who incidently has the smarts and is a great bloke)... a Carlton person who is involved in the media...a bloke who can fix your back and he might yet approach the current AFL Football Administration Manager.

I will reiterate that this is just a few men in suits in a city cafe having a yarn over a latte and a biscotti...but my gut feeling is that if anything is to happen - it won't happen until November and it won't happen unless Daniel Grollo comes to the party.


Thanks for the info Doc, greatly appreciated.


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A few of us are telling everyone how good greg lee is and he was a good choice for our board could you please fill me in on what he has done for our club that makes him so good. Just that i have never heard of him


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Brown Mckay Ratten Bradley Gleeson and the rest of their mates - maybe glascott have the skill to run a multi-million dollar business - all great footballers and no doubt great guys but really cant see them having the skill set to run a modern AFL Club - I REALLY HOPE if they do run a ticket they have a number of other people with financial legal business accounting skills which will complement their footy skills and acumen


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its a real worry this November or December time-lines..... thats a whole other trade period and draft for Pagan to poison.

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Kicking a goal for the club in the past doesnt mean the same ex players will be able to do it financially

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For those contemplating or know those who are contemplating, I understand that there is a really good chance that the March Board meeting could be brought forward to December of this year. It seems the March date is understood to be problematic due to this year's low voter turnout (only fans for the March year can vote) and a December date also allows anyone thinking of putting up their hands to do so well before the season starts. Hopefully a December date can be confirmed shortly.

Those that are up for election in the absence of a spill are:

Smorgon, Wilson, Diggins (i think) + the 2 new guys Newton and Gleeson

Those that were voted in recently of Kernahan, Valmorbida and Lee are not up for re-election. Not sure about Mathieson and Rose.


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Pretty sure Mathieson stated about a month or so after Collo's resignation that he himself will be stepping down before the end of this year.

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Rose is also up for re-election.

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Kernahan is useless. Someone like Rob Walls should be on the board to deal with the footballing side of things.

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Kernahan is useless. Someone like Rob Walls should be on the board to deal with the footballing side of things.


He is a very loyal man our Wallsy - not sure if he has the time but who knows in 2007, if On the Couch is scrapped, he may have some time.

He could certainly do a better job of overseeing a review of our Football Department.

Why is that Geelong and the Doggies both looked to Wallsy to be part of their Football Department reviews and we totally screwed up and went with two clearly unsuitable people in lieu of their positions on the Board?

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