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Well done Blueboys. Held your nerve, nice job!


QFT. Great news, could have got very ugly, but fortunately resolved.

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WE HAVE TURNED THE CORNER

Trade week 2006 will be remembered as Carlton's "line in the sand".

We no longer cop shit from player managers the likes of Allison and McConville. The ghosts of Matthew Allan and Aaron Hamill style contract negotiation have been exorcised.

I have enjoyed the events of the last few days as much as I have enjoyed any victory over the past four years.

My confidence in the direction of the grand ship Carlton has been raised a few notches. Let's now sort out the board, draft Gibbs and push forward for a competitive unit in 2007.

I'M PUMPED

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What can I say, F#^K YOU HAWTHORN AND F#^K YOU PELCHEN YOU F#^KING PIECE OF SH!T!!!!! :twisted: :evil:

Ahh, that's better... :-D

And lucky for Carlton that this has worked out this way but for f#^ks sake learn how to list manage better and not have these type of player disputes occuring in trade week when we should be devoting our time and energy on pursuing new talent. That's 2 trade weeks in a row that we have been preoccupied on keeping existing players instead of acquiring new ones


The fact that we didn't bow to the petulent demands of Thornton and to a lesser extent Russell will mean players and their filthy scum of the earth managers will think twice before trying to hold us to ransom.

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and Pagan is still coach :lol:

Both boys have alot of respect to win back next year. Still on my shit list.

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Cant even get that right :-D - should have taken 2 draft picks and got screwed by Hawthorn :? - I LOOK FORWARD TO FEV PLAYING on Croad or ZAC-WELL DONE FOR HOLDING ITS NERVE -Thorton blinked Hawthorn looks stupid Mcconville inept -we stared em all down 8)


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I reckon Fev reminded TBird at lunch the other day, if he went to the dawks, that he'd clean him up and kick a dozen sausage rolls on him. :lol:

That's what got TBird over the line :P

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So one day after the trade period he re-signs. What happened to the "fresh start" he was after and why all the fuss, when supposedly it wasn't the money or the coach?

Perhaps if he hadn't done that we might have been able to use the trade period to sign players from other clubs and improve our list rather than have to spend the entire time forcing our own players into staying.


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BlueWorld wrote:
So one day after the trade period he re-signs. What happened to the "fresh start" he was after and why all the fuss, when supposedly it wasn't the money or the coach?


Brets position may never have been as extreme as what his manager was articulaing in the media. But even if it was, they gambled, they lost, and they're smart enough to not chase their losses by dragging this out futher. Good for them.


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Fevs coffee -Mrs Pagan sandwiches - It doesn't take much

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Great news and well done on the club for not bowing to pressure and reaping the rewards!

Also, great to see the CFC website keeping supporters up to date with everything - been lacking a bit but they seem to be making a real effort to keep us informed (even if we knew beforehand)!


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So one day after the trade period he re-signs. What happened to the "fresh start" he was after and why all the fuss, when supposedly it wasn't the money or the coach?

Perhaps if he hadn't done that we might have been able to use the trade period to sign players from other clubs and improve our list rather than have to spend the entire time forcing our own players into staying.


I agree BW, I agree.

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My thoughts were made very clear on what I think of Thornton. I still stand by my comments that he is at best in a good side the person for the third tall.

However I will happily take back my comments about him essentially being a dog if he comes out in public and dumps his manager for missrepresenting him or at least says his manager handled the negotiotians badly , otherwise I dont trust the prick. Our club is greater than any individual.


Doesn't change the fact that he is still important to our developing backline.

I'd suggest you get over the uglinesss of trade week, and the argie bargie that goes with it, and give thanks that it's 51 weeks until the next one.

I'm happy that T-bird has re-signed, and that we held firm. :-D


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Why question all of these things i really dont have any issue with t-bird or Russell

Campo i was happy to see the back of and seeing how he performed for the Bombers looks to be a poor investment lol even if it was free ....

As for T-Bird and Russell these players havnt done much wrong they both may have some issues but if the Club wasnt such a mess from the board to the coaching panel both T-Bird and Russell would have been signed up and happy

T-bird ... we offered his a pretty average deal didnt properly organise our dealings with him .. we opened the door for whorethorn to come in waving the Cheque book ... how hard would it have been to try a pursuade T-Bird to go You play for a club thats a mess with a shakey coaching panel ... you been in a loosing team they have offered you a crappy contract dont think much of your worth so come to Whorethorn we are on the up good talented kids and gonna give you a $mill over 3 years.

Can you blame him so i dont have any issues as to why T-bird looked at going ... finally we have come to the party and should be thankful that Rergardless of why or what T-Bird is staying ..

Russell - sure its a mixture of being homesick and also i dont think he has been preperly treated and could have been much better handled ... still think he will blossum and hopefully gains more confidence from the coaching panel so he can make a step up next year if we manage to keep him. He is just a case of being desenchated in how he has been treated ad throw in Homesickness and again Port hovering ....

Let this be a lesson for CFC.. fix up your your issues and get some confidence and stability in the club and we wont have these issues in the future.
And any changes that occur between now and the start of 2007 make sure we get them right regardless of what is done...

And get Gibbs :)

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Deano Supremo wrote:
marciblue wrote:
What can I say, F#^K YOU HAWTHORN AND F#^K YOU PELCHEN YOU F#^KING PIECE OF SH!T!!!!! :twisted: :evil:

Ahh, that's better... :-D

And lucky for Carlton that this has worked out this way but for f#^ks sake learn how to list manage better and not have these type of player disputes occuring in trade week when we should be devoting our time and energy on pursuing new talent. That's 2 trade weeks in a row that we have been preoccupied on keeping existing players instead of acquiring new ones


The fact that we didn't bow to the petulent demands of Thornton and to a lesser extent Russell will mean players and their filthy scum of the earth managers will think twice before trying to hold us to ransom.




****BUMP***


Nice one guys.

Ghost of Kevin Heath and Laza you are going straight to hell - and you will be given straws and a put in a room with Felchen and McConnville sans pants. :twisted:

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Good news, it's a shame half the supporters here think he's a pr!ck.

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Fantastic news, and as people have said, let's use this momentum to move forward. We need to make sure we look at why Thornton wanted to leave and address these issues, but great news none the less.

All teams and people face adversity in life, it is how you deal with it that determines what kind of person / club you are. This week we really showed something after some less than optimum performances.

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great news yes. I love bret thornton.

but what did I hear? the BOARD want Gibbs. who gives a toss what the board want?

Board should be overseeing the commercial side and having the role of governance, not meddling in football issues like draft picks. If they want to be in management, quit the board and get a job at the club. Just shows how inept the Board is if they are pressuring the football dept in that way. leave the recruiting to the recruiters, the mangement to the CEO and coaching to the MC.

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sticksaftersiren87 wrote:
but what did I hear? the BOARD want Gibbs. who gives a toss what the board want?

Board should be overseeing the commercial side and having the role of governance, not meddling in football issues like draft picks. If they want to be in management, quit the board and get a job at the club. Just shows how inept the Board is if they are pressuring the football dept in that way. leave the recruiting to the recruiters, the mangement to the CEO and coaching to the MC.


Precisely!

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AGRO wrote:
Ghost of Kevin Heath and Laza you are going straight to hell...


Cut them some slack AGRO they are too busy for a right of repy, as they are slaving away in the kitchen working on all that parmigiana that they are needing to have ready for Zac Dawson to be anywhere near the size to be competitive next year ...


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