at the end of next season i'd expect all of those players to be gone except carrazzo and maybe banno but the fact rermains you just can't cut so deep in a single season. it's counter productive.

deluca, carrazzo, bannister and probably mcgrath will surive the cut this time around.

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I doubt DeLuca, Saddington and Teague will be cut in 2006 due to contracts.

But when you say 'cutting too deep', I don't agree.

If we lose McGrath and Bryan from the list that's not too deep, as they were in/out type players in the second half of the season. The others were not even in the team; just not good enough.

Carrazzo will play an important role for us for at least the next 2 years; recontract him. Ball magnet or a very good BP who just needs to practise his short passing under pressure.

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Why not???
These players offer nothing for the future. With a rich draft lets have the balls to get rid of these players and go with some fresh youth. Even if it requires us to pay out Teague and Deluca.
If guys like Banno and McGrath are consistently getting a game next year then signs are very worrying.
I'm curious why people think Carazzo is so good. Opposition coaches let him roam free in the backline cause they know that he is not damaging…average player.

I would have Sporn out before both of these three. Carrotts will improve and Bryan really hasnt stepped up to the plate yet. Saddington has been crippled with injury. I remember him being good at the swans, and we need backmen.

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Smith and Batson have both been on the rookie list for 2 years, you cant have a player on the rookie list for more than 2 years, so we have to promote them if they are staying on.

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AWWWWWW STEVENS.

Hartlett won't be delisted.
Signed a one year contract a couple of months ago.

However, if he doesn't show something this year I reckon he'll get the chop.

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As much as I look forward to a fresh start in 07, I get no pleasure from seeing kids cut from our list.
Most if not all of these kids will have their dream of an AFL career finished.
Sad times for those involved.

Good luck to all of them and I thank them for their contribution to our club.

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This is the year to cut deep into your list and get rid of the excess.
The draft runs deep and therefore a real chance to go into the 90's if needed and bring in some "fresh" faces. Sad but a lot of the players mentioned had their chance to impress in the VFL finals and just like previously let themselves and the club down, again. Contract or not they should be shown the door, we have salary cap room to replace them.

There's a world of opportunity out there for young people. Life is more than just footy.

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Rhys26 wrote



Lets agree to disagree.

Bondiblue wrote



When he was elevated from the rookie list 2+ years ago, he earned it. He was creative, attacking and a good mark for his size. He was a real find for us, and gave us something satisfying from a dull season.

He is still a ball magnet...and I don't know what you are talking about when you suggest other coaches let him roam free in the backline. If he's playing BP, he has an opponent, and when he's in the midfield, he's tagging someone, and usually does well against them as well as collecting plenty himself. I think the only time you will see him alone in the backline is when he's following the mass flood direction from Pagan; and that aint his doing.

It's his disposal into the forwardline, and in particular his short passes that have let him down; that can be improved...and a couple of lazy shots at goal.

The only good thing about McGrath imo was that he freed up Carrots into the midfield. Now if Carrots gets taken over in the midfield, it wont be because his ball finding skills have left him, but more because of the development of other kids eg maybe Blackwell, Bentick, Jackson....the addition of Gibbs, Walker, Russell, #17 or #19.

But at the very least we have a proven BP player who may be able to not only hold that position, but he may release Russell or Scotland into the midfield, giving us rotation flexibility we badly need.

He's only 23 yo, and playing seniors for 2 years.

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If you give your best and fall short in talent, I fail to see how you've let the club down Surrey.
Good luck to those moving on and bring on the draft.

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With the appointment of Brett Ratten as an assistant coach could this mean that Justin Davies is given a lifeline.
Ratten rated Davies and that is why he passed on the number 7 to him.
Given that Davies can overcome his back injuries Rats might convince Denis that he can get Davies paying good football.

Hmmm.

I doubt Ratts will have much say in the de-listings given he was only appointed yesterday and most of the cuts would have already been decided.

Davies will be delisted.

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Justin Davies is a snowflake.





The Carlton Football Club is Hell.





Don't like his chances.

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Justin's back is shot to pieces. Had major surgery, cause he could barely walk.

The condition was far worse than Ang Christou's bulging disc - we all know Ang was nowhere near the player he once was after eventually recovering.

I'd be extremely surprised if Davies was retained.

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In an ideal world there are 12 players on our list that should not be playing AFL football.
Livingston
Davies
McClaren
Teague
McGrath
Longmuir
Chambers
Deluca
Bryan
Prendergast
Bannister
Sporn
This is where we need to strengthen our list. We need to build on the depth. Realistically only 25 players on our list can warrant playing senior football.
I am hoping that we have at least 9 changes to our list. Last year we cut only 5 due to most players being contracted. This year we need to be more aggressive. We have finished bottom 2 years running for a reason, keeping in mind we had no major injuries.
With this years draft being a good draft, we must use as many picks as possible and not hold on to players for the sake of it.
I hear Teague and Deluca are still contracted beyond 2006. How is this possible? I cannot understand. Was Teague contracted for 3 years when he won the B&F.
The ideal scenario would be to cut at least 8-9, promote lets say a Jackson and maybe a Flynt or Smith, which then leaves us with 7 spots.
Use 6 in the National Draft and hopefully pick up a half decent uncontracted player in the PSD.
All of sudden there will be some optimism.

I would not elevate any of the rookies. Keep Flint, Jackson and Aisake and turf the rest.

Rhys26 disagree on Sporn - I don't believe his body can stand the rigours of AFL footy. Agree on Carrots - very overrated but should not be delisted………just yet.

your probably right that they have no future, but if you cut too deep then the kids get thrown to the wolves. you need a balance, and some cannon fodder like banno and mcgrath will be needed from time to time. there are only so many pups you can blood at once. we would be far better off adding 12 odd kids over two seasons than slashing and burning all the deadwood in one year and adding 12 kids at once.

remember next years draft is supposed to be strong too.

He was told months ago.

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it's time to go and pass the number 7 on