Kicking to the lead of a leading forward instead of at the player might be radical!

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I'll raise your victim card with my Pagan haters card!

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Your right Jarusa. Unless God himself, and not that clown Carlton god, personally guaranteed a premiership every second year , people still wouldnt be happy.

Its easy to see who the so called supporter are who spend more time bagging the players at matches.

Some in this forum must secretly love our predicament so they can vent endlessly.

Long Live the Blues and all who wear her mighty colours. (except the M&M Jumpers)

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If I'm happy about everything the club/board/administration do, will I be a "real supporter" like you?

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I fully encourage criticism, but IMO in the last few months the criticism on TC about the CFC has tipped over into ridiculous proportions and again IMO has now gone from being healthy criticism which educates the supporter base to overblown levels that now does more harm than good in trashing the brand of the CFC.

The balance is out of whack and there are a significant number of posters here who drown out anything that is said that is positive, and that is a shame because many people just stop posting here because of it.

Looking forward to when the negative nellies are happy again. Might be soon hopefully and then we can get back into the normal groove.

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Amen to that Jars....

http://nthballaratroosters.footballvic. ... aid=107730

[i]North Ballarat footballers are doing more than just learning how to play football at the highest level. A group of 17 FMP Roosters’ players are also taking part in a formal education program that will see each of them receive a Certificate III in Player Development at the end of the course.

Indicative of the high regard that the Club holds this program in, is the involvement of senior coach Gavin Crosisca. “Gavin was so encouraged by the program that he believed it would be invaluable to him and agreed to undertake the course himself,â€

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How terrible that Gavin thought it would be a good idea to broaden his horizons and education.

I think it's great that the club has been given a kick up the ar$e. We might actually make some progress next year. I do feel Smorgon has copped a lot more than he deserves though.

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I figured he would have skills above what his players had in those areas.in order to do his job properly....

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And rather than rest on his laurels he will continue to update his education to make sure those skills fit in with "modern football" maybe?

See, Crosisca does a course on player development, but it does not fit into the black and white world of CFC hating so it is just dismissed. How predictable. No ground is given or taken in arguments it's just all or nothing these days on TC, a rather pointless form of discussion really.

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Agreed give the guy a chance, it is funny that he picked a former assistant but I would say it's just a coincidence as he would have had a few work under him over the years.

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Good stuff Jars.

I do agree with you that at times the negative posts (which posters are entitled to let me add) have been done ad nauseum. It's one of the reasons why I havent spent as much time online in TC this year, after being a semi-prolific poster last year and on TBV.

There's only so much negativity one can take.

Most of us here live and breathe Carlton and, by association, TC.

If you live and breathe something, and that something is constantly being pounded with negativity all the time.... well... you fill in the blanks....

Having said that..... unfortunately, that's the nature of internet forums.

People's posting mirrors how the team and the club are going. In our case, it's exacerbated by the fact that Carlton are going through the worst period in our proud history.

The supporters aren't used to this and the forum is an outlet to vent and voice their frustration/anger with fellow brothers/sisters that love the Navy Blue.

Looked at from a different perspective, the negativity on this forum demonstrates the passion, emotive ties, and genuine love we have for Our Club.

Ironic that the existence of Carlton internet forums has coincided with the worst period in CFC's history.... it's like raiiiinn on you wedding day!

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Yeah, agree with all that.

It's just this thread is a good example of what I am talking about.

Sure, it's obvious that Crosisca has been hired by Pagan for familiarity, possibly lackey reasons. So, lets look past that and see if we have picked up a better quality lackey. A quality debate would focus on this area. Instead it is just more mindless Pagan Hating.

The evidence with regards to a better quality assistant (better than Elshaug) IMO points to yes. We have someone who for two years has coached a team in the second strongest league in Victoria. Who has coached a young team with a specific focus on development (if you look at the Roosters site it seems that most of the articles are specifically about development, it seems to be talked about all the time). Who has coached a young team into the finals this year and won a final.

He has had 4 years of coaching experience away from Pagan, surely he might be able to bring something new to the table.

Just because he has been appointed by Pagan does not mean he is evil incarnate.

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Agree Jars. Although Crosisca seems an unispired choice, I'm prepared to give him a go. If I was senior coach, I'd probably choose someone I've worked well with in the past as my main right hand man. Can't really begrudge Denis choosing one of his ex-assistants.

If worse comes to worse and Gavin proves to be hopeless, he'll be turfed out when DP gets the boot anyway.

Am pretty happy with Ratts as assistant.... love the fact that a self-made player is part of the MC.... especially one that was able to transform himself from a bit-part BP to one of the elite midfielders of his time. Ratts should a big plus in the development of our young team!!

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Crosiscas appointment Uninspired by whom?

Oh so spot on it is embarassing