Talking Carlton Index Lochie O'Brien Kerryn Harrington Lochie O'Brien Kerryn Harrington CFC Home CFC Membership CFC Shop CFC Fixture Blueseum
It is currently Mon Jul 21, 2025 8:31 am

All times are UTC + 10 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 43 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Author Message
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 9:17 am 
Offline
formerly Yazzamatazz
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:16 pm
Posts: 7562
Location: NowHere.....
The big Fev has proven to be our best kick in quite a while, but it's hard to say without having seen them all...

Stick was a pretty darn good kick, i still don't know why his kicking was affected towards the later years...Perhaps an injury he kept quite..

Hamill was super reliable with goals that had to be kicked. (Runs for cover)

_________________
Circumstance has no value. It is how one relates to a situation that has value. All true meaning resides in the personal relationship to a phenomenon, what it means to you.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 11:11 am 
Offline
Harry Vallence

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:22 pm
Posts: 1499
Location: Sydney
thylacine60 wrote:
Please don't suggest Johnston was a reliable kick for goal. I don't think there has been a less accurate kick at the club considering the amount of shots he had.


If I had to have a bloke spinning backwards out of a pack from 50 Johno would be my man.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 11:17 am 
Offline
Alex Jesaulenko
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 27, 2005 6:31 pm
Posts: 24457
Location: Heartbroken
Brad Pearce post '95 frustrated the bejaysus out of me. Put him 20 m out straight in front set shot and he'd spray it, put him 45 out, on the boundary, surrounded by defenders and he'd get it through the middle.

_________________
Richard Pratt - A Carlton legend.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 11:24 am 
Offline
Stephen Kernahan

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:35 am
Posts: 18086
Fev for me.
If he marks it anywhere within 60, angle or not, I feel confident he'll kick it.
Cant say the same for many others.

_________________
Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 11:26 am 
Offline
Alex Jesaulenko
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 27, 2005 6:31 pm
Posts: 24457
Location: Heartbroken
Unless someone jogs my memory to the contrary, Fev's the best I've seen in the Navy Blue.

_________________
Richard Pratt - A Carlton legend.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:29 pm 
Offline
Harry Vallence

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:22 pm
Posts: 1499
Location: Sydney
Blue Vain wrote:
Fev for me.
If he marks it anywhere within 60, angle or not, I feel confident he'll kick it.
Cant say the same for many others.


I feel the same although its more the 40-60 range for me. I get nervous on the ones closer.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 2:26 pm 
Offline
Stephen Silvagni
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:49 pm
Posts: 27793
Location: Southbank.
thylacine60 wrote:
Warby wrote:
The Fev stands out of course ATM....especially from a long way out; he's still not a certainty close in; but he's a magnificent kick for goal.

I'll never forget Bryan Quirk; No.32 on the wing for us. It didn't matter how far out it was; he would unleash a perfect torpedo for a goal....it was poetry in motion....you could put your house on him kicking it.

How about Warren Ralph? Could he kick it a mile or what? Yet....not reliable close in.

Has there ever been a more classical Half Forward Flanker than Wayne Johnston? Or a better running torpedo goal kicker in the history of the game? Never....could'nt be.

John Nicholls was a great shot for goal ; and never missed the ones that counted. He kicked a flat punt; like Peter Hudson....very effective 'tho. I recall Big Nick kicking a massive torpedo goal for us at PP to win a game for us, and I remember saying to my Dad that I had never seen him kick a torp before. My Dad wisely said "He wouldn't have made the distance...it had to be a torpedo, and he had the ability to produce one when it mattered"

Greg Kennedy was a great shot for goal; I recall watching him kick 12 goals for us against Hawthorn. Ross Ditchburn also kicked 12 for us ; I think against the Saints at Waverley. A little bloke called Brian Walsh from Bendigo way was a great goalsneak for us too kicking 7 for us at least once.

Strangely enough, Geoff Southby always fancied himself as a forward, and at one stage threatened to leave if we didn't play him up forward....which we did...it was an abject failure as Geoff ; who was a magnificent drop and punt kick, could not kick a goal to save his life....he had no idea. He got it out of his system; we regained our Champion Full Back; and we all smiled again......


Please don't suggest Johnston was a reliable kick for goal. I don't think there has been a less accurate kick at the club considering the amount of shots he had.


Dom played mostly in the centre, and was a devastating player in four Premierships....11 years for 209 games and 283 goals.

Injuries to his back, knees, hip and ankles failed to stop him boring in for the hard ball and to kick the match winning goals when they were needed.....one of the first players picked in Carlton's Team of the Century; and the best running kick for goal I've ever seen at Carlton.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 2:42 pm 
Offline
Bruce Doull
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:41 pm
Posts: 63509
Deano Supremo wrote:
Unless someone jogs my memory to the contrary, Fev's the best I've seen in the Navy Blue.


Same.

_________________
And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 3:20 pm 
Offline
John James
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2005 11:38 am
Posts: 622
Dorotich and Spalding :P


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:13 pm 
Offline
Stephen Silvagni
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:49 pm
Posts: 27793
Location: Southbank.
Actually.....Parkin had the Duke undergo extensive computerised research into the reasons for his inaccuracy.

In his last couple of seasons; Spalding became a pretty reliable kick for goal; albeit from not far out!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:13 pm 
Offline
Wayne Johnston

Joined: Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:59 am
Posts: 8632
...


Last edited by chubbyruss on Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:00 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:04 am 
Offline
Bert Deacon

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:07 am
Posts: 567
Location: sunshine coast
Johnno springs to mind.
Always felt comfortable when Diesel was within range.
But could you go past Rodney Gult from 15m out?
Regards Pedro.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:27 am 
Offline
Rod McGregor
User avatar

Joined: Tue May 02, 2006 3:27 am
Posts: 161
Harry "Soapy Vallence was a very good kick for goal.
One of our best.
It was a different footy in thsoe days also. Not as streamlined as now.

Kenny Hunter wasnt bad. They used to throw him down to full forward when we were struggling, and he usually kicked a few.
Whether he qualifies as one of our best is another story.

..


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:50 am 
Offline
Adrian Gallagher

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:59 pm
Posts: 65
Location: Northcote
Ratts, Braddles and Diesel all were absolute professionals. Diesel used to fire up when booed (typically by opposition fans) so sometimes we joined in! Never missed then

Harry Madden was a metronome whenever he got the chance in his later years.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:57 am 
Offline
Rod Ashman

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:57 pm
Posts: 2180
Location: Melb
Carrazzo!

_________________
Not so best of TheSexySquad


AWWWWWW STEVENS.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:18 am 
Offline
Harry Vallence
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 1:26 pm
Posts: 1771
Location: Not bloody close enough to the action!!
The Shag! :P

_________________
2002:> "In their Masters Chambers
They Gathered for their Feast
They Stabbed us with their Steely Knives
But They Just Can't Kill The Beast!" <2016

THE BLUEBAGGER BEAST IS BAACKK!!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:59 am 
Offline
Adrian Gallagher

Joined: Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:13 pm
Posts: 82
Location: kinglake
Warby wrote:
thylacine60 wrote:
Warby wrote:
The Fev stands out of course ATM....especially from a long way out; he's still not a certainty close in; but he's a magnificent kick for goal.

I'll never forget Bryan Quirk; No.32 on the wing for us. It didn't matter how far out it was; he would unleash a perfect torpedo for a goal....it was poetry in motion....you could put your house on him kicking it.

How about Warren Ralph? Could he kick it a mile or what? Yet....not reliable close in.

Has there ever been a more classical Half Forward Flanker than Wayne Johnston? Or a better running torpedo goal kicker in the history of the game? Never....could'nt be.

John Nicholls was a great shot for goal ; and never missed the ones that counted. He kicked a flat punt; like Peter Hudson....very effective 'tho. I recall Big Nick kicking a massive torpedo goal for us at PP to win a game for us, and I remember saying to my Dad that I had never seen him kick a torp before. My Dad wisely said "He wouldn't have made the distance...it had to be a torpedo, and he had the ability to produce one when it mattered"

Greg Kennedy was a great shot for goal; I recall watching him kick 12 goals for us against Hawthorn. Ross Ditchburn also kicked 12 for us ; I think against the Saints at Waverley. A little bloke called Brian Walsh from Bendigo way was a great goalsneak for us too kicking 7 for us at least once.

Strangely enough, Geoff Southby always fancied himself as a forward, and at one stage threatened to leave if we didn't play him up forward....which we did...it was an abject failure as Geoff ; who was a magnificent drop and punt kick, could not kick a goal to save his life....he had no idea. He got it out of his system; we regained our Champion Full Back; and we all smiled again......


Please don't suggest Johnston was a reliable kick for goal. I don't think there has been a less accurate kick at the club considering the amount of shots he had.


Dom played mostly in the centre, and was a devastating player in four Premierships....11 years for 209 games and 283 goals.

Injuries to his back, knees, hip and ankles failed to stop him boring in for the hard ball and to kick the match winning goals when they were needed.....one of the first players picked in Carlton's Team of the Century; and the best running kick for goal I've ever seen at Carlton.


Obviously my memories of standing with dad in the 70's and 80's at PP and sitting in the kitchen listening to Johnno spray another opportunity at goal are flawed. This thread is about accuracy not how good he looked goaling on the run. Yes he used to dob them on the run but not with any consistent accuracy. I imagine his goals v points stats are a bit difficult to bring up and probably wouldn't amount to much anyway.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:27 am 
Offline
Stephen Silvagni
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:49 pm
Posts: 27793
Location: Southbank.
I don't recall talking about how good Dom looked....but seeing you mentioned it....he DID look great as he would wheel around onto that left foot and unleash a torpedo towards goal and immediately turn to run back to the centre with his fists raised in triumph, without ever having to check whether it had gone through or not; such was his confidence about his accuracy on the run.

I recall that Collingwood offered him an absolute fortune to switch camps....they said he was the player standing between them and a Flag.....he refused to leave Carlton.

To quote from "Carlton- The 100 Greatest"....."Johnston was the near perfect Centreman....and there have been few finer sights in football than Johnston streaming from the centre and unloading with a magnificent long, left foot punt kick"


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:33 am 
Offline
Craig Bradley
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 1:09 pm
Posts: 6028
Since 1992

(Minimum 20 goals kicked)

Ranked in 'accuracy':

Player Gm Goals Pts ACCURACY
French, Barnaby 71 20 4 5.00
Hotton, Trent 61 36 13 2.77
Madden, Justin 92 41 20 2.05
Clape, Matt 58 48 24 2.00
Dean, Peter 101 20 10 2.00
White, Adam 44 21 11 1.91
Hickmott, Adrian 134 107 59 1.81
Betts, Eddie 40 39 22 1.77
Heaver, Brent 62 100 57 1.75
Hamill, Aaron 92 114 65 1.75
Gleeson, Adrian 54 60 35 1.71
Williams, Greg 93 87 52 1.67
Cook, James 25 35 21 1.67
Fisher, Bradley 51 54 33 1.64
Manton, Glenn 157 30 19 1.58
De Luca, Adrian 46 22 14 1.57
Lappin, Matthew 178 200 128 1.56
Kernahan, Stephen 93 292 190 1.54
Whitnall, Lance 201 329 222 1.48
Scotland, Heath 63 25 17 1.47
Fevola, Brendan 123 328 228 1.44
McKernan, Corey 41 60 42 1.43
Fletcher, Simon 84 30 21 1.43
Houlihan, Ryan 136 86 61 1.41
Welsh, Rohan 28 31 22 1.41
OSullivan, Luke 24 21 15 1.40
Beaumont, Simon 152 89 64 1.39
Camporeale, Scott 233 200 147 1.36
Pearce, Brad 77 151 113 1.34
Hulme, Darren 110 56 42 1.33
Davies, Justin 41 20 15 1.33
Rice, Dean 118 42 32 1.31
Allan, Matthew 140 72 55 1.31
Bradley, Craig 217 134 103 1.30
Murphy, Justin 115 105 82 1.28
Alvin, Tom 44 28 22 1.27
Koutoufides, Anthony 261 220 173 1.27
Ratten, Brett 215 111 88 1.26
Silvagni, Stephen 194 111 90 1.23
Waite, Jarrad 63 72 60 1.20
Brown, Fraser 134 85 71 1.20
Spalding, Earl 80 86 72 1.19
Mitchell, Barry 38 25 22 1.14
Simpson, Kade 43 21 19 1.11
Franchina, Anthony 105 26 24 1.08
De Iulio, Ron 85 42 39 1.08
Hogg, Matthew 97 32 30 1.07
Hanna, Mil 82 36 36 1.00
Bond, Troy 36 26 26 1.00
Stevens, Nick 62 30 34 0.88
Sexton, Michael 165 21 26 0.81
Whitehead, Adrian 63 22 28 0.79
McKay, Andrew 244 28 40 0.70

_________________
░L░I░N░K░I░N░B░I░O ░


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:45 am 
Offline
Adrian Gallagher

Joined: Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:13 pm
Posts: 82
Location: kinglake
Warby wrote:
I don't recall talking about how good Dom looked....but seeing you mentioned it....he DID look great as he would wheel around onto that left foot and unleash a torpedo towards goal and immediately turn to run back to the centre with his fists raised in triumph, without ever having to check whether it had gone through or not; such was his confidence about his accuracy on the run.

I recall that Collingwood offered him an absolute fortune to switch camps....they said he was the player standing between them and a Flag.....he refused to leave Carlton.

To quote from "Carlton- The 100 Greatest"....."Johnston was the near perfect Centreman....and there have been few finer sights in football than Johnston streaming from the centre and unloading with a magnificent long, left foot punt kick"


I'll bow to your sentiments. Difficult to genuinely question anything about such a well loved legend. His first 15 minutes in the 82 GF alone were enough to seal his greatness for me. We have no-one today (yet) who can drag the team up to such levels of determination and courage. What a role model for the young blokes he would be. Wish he'd stop chubbing around for Ninthmond the way he does though.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 43 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next

All times are UTC + 10 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot], Google Adsense [Bot] and 34 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group