Good point Duke....................................Lets trade Barney as well then!!!

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If Stevens misses success, surely he would weigh the "success' of the other club, (Collingwood), he was intending to go to. Pies have been about as good as we have over two years. I'd even consider us a nose ahead with the Wok-We-Won pre-season. However, if he was to be traded...well he did come for free so we'd double our return for a couple of first round draft picks. (Stevens is not captain material either. Calm and collected but he doesn't have that grunt. No, not 'that' grunt, the other one).

Trades for Whits and Campo are justified. Lappin I'm keen to stay but agree that 3 years is too much to ask.

Move Houls up to the midfield next year.

AND

Prendergast makes me so anxious I hide under my chair with a glass of Eno and a blindfold.

Well according to Robert Walls, Mike and Gerald on the couch last night you can trade a newly signed contracted player

If all parties agree to the trade then the player can be traded to another club. eg, if other club is willing to pay the same amount in the contract and accept and years and player is willing to go...

Now don't blast me, it was what they said last night...

All parties have to agree. I think Heffernan did not want to be traded and thats why a change was made to the rules.

But if Heffernan did not want to be traded you cant trade someone.. cos he would have to agree to terms with his new club.....

Like Porter at North when it almost fell over cos he wouldnt sign

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The so-called Heffernan rule was proposed by the ALFPA after Heffernan was traded not long after signing a new contract.
However once they realised clubs would not sign many players until after trade period the ALFPA backed off as it would have been against the interests of their members after all.

Must have been a slow news day at the Hun ...

The reality is he's getting away with murder at the moment and he might have to try if he goes to a club with competition for spots...

I reckon Lappin will stay, Whitnall's gone and Campo... ?

I'll have to sit on the fence...

I have heard there is no interest in Campo from any of the 15 clubs.

From watching his performance on Sunday, I can see why.

Campo has been performing better than Stevens and Kouta in recent weeks.....

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having watched these 3 very closely on Sunday, I would beg to differ.

Overall yes he has, but on Sunday Kouta was better. Stevo is doing it hard at the moment.

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Stevens has been well tagged out of the game being Carlton's most damaging midfielder if left alone.

I'm curious to know whether there's any truth to him wanting to leave the club.

Only if you're judging it on quantity of disposals alone...

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I did say over "recent weeks", not just on Sunday.

In my opinion Stevens has struggled since the Adelaide game in Round 10, after which, or was it before which, it was revealed that he was afflicted by the flu. People say that Nick has struggled to overcome the effects of the flu and if that's the case then you have to cut him some slack. But, in the games since, he has been well and truly beaten on the whole by players like Luke Ablett, Troy Selwood, Daniel Cross, Tyson Stenglein, Steven Baker/McQualter and Ryan Crowley. These taggers have had the better of Nick over the last six weeks. Flu/injuries or not, Stevens has not beaten or even broke even with one of his opponents over this period Headplant.

Kouta has also been struggling for mine although he was better on Sunday definitely. He might have had 28 touches against Brisbane but I don't think he played particularly well that night. He had close to 30 touches on the weekend but whilst I thought his game was one of his better ones for a while, he still wasn't what I'd call 'great' or even 'very good' but was just 'decent enough'. Otherwise, look at the games against the Bulldogs, WCE and St. Kilda etc and you'll find that Kouta hasn't been playing all that well recently.

Camporeale in my opinion has been the best of the three recently. That's not to say that Camporeale has even been that good. He hasn't, but his performances I believe have been superior to those of Stevens and Kouta. I thought he did pretty well on Sunday, yes, he doesn't chase as much as we'd like and he has some flaws in his game but for mine he did show some leadership and at least he found some footy. I thought he was decent against the Saints too having had the job on Nick Dal Santo who I thought Campo beat in the first half but struggled more after half time as the Saints avalanche of goals occurred.

I don't know your opinion on the whole Camporeale situation Headplant but I hope that you are able to judge his matches objectively and on their own merits. Not suggesting you aren't, it's just that a lot of people here don't judge his performances objectively, letting their anti-Campo biases cloud their judgments.

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Am I right in thinking that Pagan has been playing Stevens at half-back quite a bit?

Otherwise he just cops too much from taggers as people have said. They know they don't need to tag Kouta and Campo because they can back their own midfielders to get as much ball as them AND do damage. Stevens is our only one of that three who opposition coaches still respect.

As for Stevens walking out on Carlton to go to another club, unless we are able to trade him for something good he won't go surely. If he goes to PSD he is a good chance of going straight to Hawthorn, who also have a long-term plan in place. He'll be Lappin's age by the time he plays finals footy again with either team, in which he may as well stick with us and at least be able to say he was a lynchpin of the revival.

Stevens isnt going anywhere.
No truth in the Tarrant/Stevens rumour.
The word from the top is "the gravy train has come to an end and they have to want to play for Carlton not picks"
Midfielders and a ruckman are prioritised.
Very happy with the kids.
Happy with the forward line.
At least one big name player will be gone.

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Will his skis get sold in the Trading Post?

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

Thanks Ryan Pagan, I mean Synbad.

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For some silly reason, you people want to assassinate him, and it's just rubbish. You people. All of you, ALL of you!

Well, I guess Ryan had to do something after his stint at the Roos.

What's happened to him, by the way?

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